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Xenu Edit

Poopergeist has inspired me! Here's more on Xenu if you feel inspired to write about the evil alien. Proxima Centauri 17:57, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I spent a long time researching and after that knew enough to write up just one death. The Scientologists have a reputation for suing people so everything I write that’s not clearly fiction must be researched and referenced. Once it’s been researched it’s that much more effective against them.

I think it’s time that you write a bit or a large chunk now, as you’re American you can write about Rednecks better than I can. If you feel like a break that’s no problem because I can go back to The Aliens of the Flaming Red Sun. Proxima Centauri 19:09, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

That's some awesome stuff man! Hope to see more contribs from you! This'll be a great story I can tell! Maybe we could make Xenu the evil villain instead...Millenian 19:12, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

In case you haven't seen the films, there's an evil cult leader named Henry Kane who entraps the spirits of his followers in a cavern far below the Freelings' house. He's greedy, sadistic and power-hungry and wants utter control of his followers...and I thought that sounded a lot like a certain other cult leader we both know of, so I replaced him with L Ron Hubbard. :D Millenian 21:20, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Which inspires you more? I hope Hubbard stays important because I want to warn people not to get involved with Scientology and Hubbard is more closlely associated with it. Xenu can be the chief villain who's somehow escaped from the electronic mountain trap or he's still confined but has succeeded in broadcasting over the television from the trap and ofcourse wants to get out. if Xenu is the arch villain then Hubbard minds a great deal that he must take second place. Proxima Centauri 08:15, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Well seeing as how Xenu is a creation of Hubbard then Hubbard will be the main villain...Xenu can be like his manifestation. Like "The Beast" in the film. Millenian 01:30, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree that Xenu is a frightening manifestation of Hubbard's sick imagination. Proxima Centauri 07:28, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Haha! Hubbard actually wrote that?? He really was nuts! Millenian 02:35, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Do these pictures of Xenu inspire you? Proxima Centauri 18:32, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Poopergeist general Edit

It looks like fun, but I lead a sheltered life...I've seen none of the listed films. --JWSchmidt 19:23, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I haven't seen them either but Millenian can deal with that part of it, also Wikipedia almost has material on all the films. Proxima Centauri 08:07, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

It would probably be a good idea if you watched at least the Poltergeist film, then you can get a general idea where the plot is headed. Otherwise it can get confusing (the crowd of ghosts doesn't appear until much later in the story) If you have some time click the YouTube link I posted above where you can watch the whole film for free. Millenian 03:19, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
Nice work! It's coming along beautifully! Millenian 01:29, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
Hey yeah, sorry about that, I've been real busy and I've been forgetting to get on and edit. We don't need to restart at all, I just need to go over, correct some inconsistencies and maybe delete a few unecessary items that always have a way of creeping into my writing. I would like to finish this project though, it will be one of the few that I actually do. Millenian 02:19, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
Actually I wasn't going to put a whole lot of redneck stuff in that part...but now that you mention it, perhaps I should. I added the bit about the crowd of Scientologist ghosts, perhaps you could elaborate on it since you tried to add it at the beginning of the story. Millenian 01:34, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

I need to research every death carefully to avoid possible legal action from the Scientologists so I'll add more slowly. You can write you type of work and I'll add material from time to time when I've got something. Frankly the story of Lisa McPherson] is so upsetting it needs something lighter to set it off or readers won't enjoy Poopergeist. Proxima Centauri 07:08, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

TemplateEdit

I’m tired of Scientology advertisements appearing on work that I’ve written like here. I’ve even created a template to put onto pages where that happens and here the template is below:-
{{Scientology Cockroach}} and below is how it looks:-

Can you imagine what it’s like to be dying in some dirty place with cockroaches biting you while you are still alive? I can’t though Scientologists let Lisa McPherson die that way and sadly that wasn't fiction. If you’ve the stomach for them here’s the Autopsy photos. Here's a further account of what happened,Death in slow motion: Part 2 of 3 in a special report on the Church of Scientology

We regret that Wikia puts Scientology advertisements onto some of our pages despite what’s wrong.

To see how it looks on a page, just scroll down to the bottom of the page. If any other writers are tired of Scientology rubbish turning up on your pages please feel free to use this template or create one yourselves. Just make sure what you write is true, provable and referenced. Proxima Centauri 15:52, December 16, 2009 (UTC)


Wikipedia on films that may be inspiringEdit

I'll look up the others later though those who've seen the movies can write that part of the story better. Others can add interesting, frightening details. Proxima Centauri 09:44, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Back to this storyEdit

I've removed the crowd of ghosts as you say they didn't appear in the Poltergeist series till much later. I'd like to write about two ghosts of people who died through dehydration during controversial Scientology "therapy" as there's evidence that this actually happened and I've started researching those deaths together with researching general information about death through dehydration. I planned to start with those deaths and move on to more frightening deaths like people bound and thrown overboard from L Ron Hubbard's Seaorg ship. There's also evidence that happened. I've looked into Lisa McPherson further and frankly the cockroacy bites are worse than the dehydration.

http://www.symptomsofdehydration.com/effects-of-dehydration.htm Effects of Dehydration


http://www.lisamcpherson.org/lisapics.htm Lisa McPherson (Autopsy) This had gruesome photos

http://www.lisamcpherson.org/ Lisa McPherson (story)

http://www.lermanet.com/cos/five.html Lisa McPherson (dehydration). Naturally scientologists try to deny that there was dehydration but the cockroaches are clear. Proxima Centauri 08:16, November 24, 2009 (UTC)


The others want to write a fun spoof of several ghost stories while I want to do some fun stuff but also want to write exposures of harm Scientology has done/is doing. I'm willing to look at harrowing information to do this, you don't have to, you just do the fun stuff, I'll fit mine in.

Having read more about this death I fear it will be difficult to write anything funny about it though I do want to warn people about Scientology. I'll give myself time to think how to write about it without getting into bad taste. Proxima Centauri 08:44, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

You feel like writing fun stuff that's OK, I wrote fun stuff with An Alien Wife committed Adultery and tricked her Husband. just this gives me the chance to warn people about Scientology as well. Proxima Centauri 11:05, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good, I personally just thought it would be funny to have the founder of Scientology as the evil cult leader instead of Henry Kane. It's gone better than I thought it would. I appreciate your knowledge of Scientology, keep adding it where you see opportunities. Most of what I'll be doing is just putting in funny gags on the film. Millenian 18:43, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

I’ve researched other Scientology deaths but after I’d written about Lisa Macpherson I felt yet more sad stuff wouldn’t fit easily so I wrote about Vincent Van Gough. If I get a chance I’ll fit other ghosts of people who died through Scientology in later. I’m planning to add a bit about how the Scientologist with the expensive courses thinks Van Gough shouldn’t have been a painter but should have sold Scientology courses instead. Perhaps Van Gough could have painted a few Scientology posters and designed a few Scientology book covers. Einstein should have done Scientology instead of relativity as well etc etc. Proxima Centauri 19:54, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Scenes 3 & 4 Edit

Scenes 3 & 4 are high on action and low on dialogue. Does anyone feel like filling in dialogue and sound effects? Proxima Centauri 16:56, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do it, I'll have to watch that part of the film again though just to refresh my memory. Millenian 18:41, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

I'm researching what happened to Lisa McPherson and I've come to these sites:-


InconsistenciesEdit

I note some inconsistencies in the story as of now...so what we could do is have this just be a rough draft of sorts, and once it's finished we could touch it up and fix up the inconsistencies and then let that be the final version. Millenian 22:42, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

What are the inconsistencies? If there are inconsistencies about Scientology that can show that this rubbish belief system is irrational and inconsistent. Proxima Centauri 09:16, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

This was inconsistentEdit

Old Mae begins to repeat what the ghosts on the screen are saying.


Ghost of Lisa McPherson I was shut up quite alone in a dirty place with cockroaches crawling all over and people were hardly ever allowed to talk to me so I think I just got worse there and I didn't even get to eat and drink enough. Near the end I was weak and confused, my head was throbbing, I couldn’t breathe properly, my chest felt horrible and so did my stomach, I was vomiting what little I did eat, my muscles kept tightening when I didn’t want them to and that just made me even more confused. Right at the end I was so weak and so confused I couldn’t even stop any number of dirty cockroaches biting me. [1]

The other ghosts, those with funny hats and those without express sympathy.

Second Scientology Victim I died in a similar way to you!

Lisa McPherson embraces the Second Scientology Victim compassionately.

Second Scientology Victim The Scientologists ordered me to stop contacting my family many years before they let me die so nobody ever found out what happened. [2]

There are more expressions of sympathy while some of the Rednecks say they would like to get their guns and shoot the Scientologists who caused the deaths.

With thisEdit

Ryan These spirits are all bewildered and confused...I don't believe they really know that they're dead.

Oda Mae They don't. Sometimes for a short while they know they've died, then they get confused and forget. They think they're still alive, and they're reliving their suffering over and over, and they're taking it out on the house. They kidnapped your little Carol Ann because they see her life force as their salvation.

I altered itEdit

I changed it to say they are confused part of the time since Lisa and the Second Scientology victim clearly know they have died as they speak. This gives dramatic possibilities, when Diane is in the other dimension persuading the spirits to move to the light they can realize they are dead, then forget and get confused again one or more times before they finally accept that they are dead and go to the light.

AlternativeEdit

Lisa can say after she tells how she died,
“I simply don’t know how I survived it!”
Old Mae can reply,
“Sadly Lisa didn’t survive it, she doesn’t realize she’s a ghost.” or something similar.

The Second Scientology Victim can say something like
“They messed me about in a similar way to you and I don’t know how I survived either!” Old Mae can explain again that he didn’t survive it. Proxima Centauri 14:39, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

  1. Only Scientologists know what actually happened to Lisa but we know from a description of Introspective Rundown that she was probably alone with auditors talking to her rarely while everyone else had to keep quiet. Lisa was described as emaciated here which suggests she didn’t get enough to eat either. The Lisa McPherson autopsy report states that cockroaches had been biting her while this website suggests she was still alive when at least some of the cockroach bites happened. I got from a report by five doctors that she was severely dehydrated when she died also I got the symptoms of dehydration including severe dehydration from an impartial medical website.
  2. Were there other cases like Lisa McPherson? Scientologists do get orders to stop seeing relatives so it’s plausible that other cases were covered up with no family on hand to insist on an investigation. We just don’t know.

Lisa McPherson and other victimsEdit

It will probably take me some time before I know enough so I can write something where the ghost of Lisa McPherson describes what happened to her and I can prove that Scientologists do the things I'm describing. Only Scientologists know what actually happened to Lisa but I want to write something in a fictional setting that could have happened and show that Scientologists do the type of thing I'm describing. Proxima Centauri 15:55, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

I’ve now written up about Lisa McPherson but I’m researching

I’m looking for a male victim to balance the two ladies, there are plenty more deaths but I suspect three known deaths together with three that I imagine the Scientologists hushed up is enough and more would distress readers.


If you feel like carrying on with the fun part of the story that’s not a problem as I plan to fit the other two in just after Lisa McPherson. Proxima Centauri 11:47, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

In the story the Beast is having several confused spirits do his work for him...perhaps in this story the bewildered spirits can be the Scientology victims? The next part involves a psychic played by Zelda Rubinstein helping them get Carol Ann back. That'll be the main part of this Scenes 7 to 9. Millenian 22:40, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

I’ve introduced one Scientology victim who doesn’t recognize that Scientology is bad and there can be one or more victim who don’t realise that they are victims. Lisa McPherson currently is a victim who realizes belatedly that she was badly treated but that can be changed. Alternatively Lisa can be sensible in death while others don’t see that they are victims. Proxima Centauri 09:26, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

After not much reflection I feel that the ghosts of real people who died as victims to Scientology should be shown respectfully because we should not upset living relatives of these unfortunate people. We can make fun of historical figures like Van Goch or make fun of fictional Scientology victims. With fictional victims we must clearly show and reference that similar thing have happened or could have happened. We must also show clearly what’ fact and what’s fiction. Proxima Centauri 09:32, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Project Charnology and Scientologist bulliesEdit

If you post with the same username at places like Facebook or YouTube or Twitter where Cyberbullying is tolerated Scientologists can get to you, I don't know if they will but they might. Here’s what Child Cyberbullies do and adults can be much worse.

Do you feel like taking a peek at "Scientoligeist - The Curse of Xenu" is a play that is lulz to read.? I’ve copied Scientoligeist - The Curse of Xenu onto another anti-Scientologist wiki called The Project Chanology Research Wiki, it’s at Scientoligeist - The Curse of Xenu. I gave the reason for copying the play here. I don’t know how the admins at The Project Chanology Research Wiki will react to a play that’s not all hardnosed research and it doesn’t look like a sociable wiki like Novelas. As far as I’m concerned you’re very welcome to start an account at the other wiki and the play is safer if all additions are copied onto both wikis. Remember I’m just an ordinary user and not an admin at the other wiki. If you don’t feel like copying everything you write onto both wikis I’ll copy for you and give you an attribution, that assumes the admins at the other wiki tolerate the play. I’ve got a copy of Scientoligeist stored on my computer so it won’t die even if Scientologists get to Wikia, you may like to copy the play onto your computer too.

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